I saw the Shiraishi's spiel (Lucky☆Star ep.10) first referenced at Omo's place, but the real thing exceeded my expectations, nay, my very imagination.

The idea is not new. Here's how it was debated in comments at Pixy's (while attempting to predict the development of Zero no Tsukaima):

16 Change is in the definition of tsundere, Jonathan. Just thought you might want to know (^_^)

Also, it's often dangerous to make grand pronouncements based just on part of a series. I should know, I wrote off Lain that way.

Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at September 23, 2006 11:35 AM

17 Well I'm reserving judgement, but I'm getting pessimistic.

I would say that ambivalence is the definition of tsundere. That I can see; I'm just not seeing change.

Posted by: Jonathan Tappan at September 23, 2006 01:05 PM

18 Jonathon, with all due respect, Pete is correct that change is part of the definition of a tsundere. Not an opinion or observation, but literally due to the source of the term.

If what you see is ambivalence, then it isn't a tsundere. If you use that word to refer to ambivalence, you're using the word incorrectly.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at September 23, 2006 04:31 PM

Great minds think alike, or what?